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Old 07-27-2009, 01:04 PM
Smitty519 Smitty519 is offline
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Default Securing Turnbuckles

On one of Brion's DVD's, he talks about using a "c" made from welding rod as opposed to cotter pins to secure rigging turnbuckles. I'm not sure I understand from the description how to do this. It sounds like a great idea. The beauty of it seems to be that you wouldn't have to tape over the turnbuckles to prevent snagging a sail.

Can someone please help me understand what's required and how to do this? A picture or two would be great.

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Old 07-30-2009, 09:02 PM
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While I myself do not follow the practice of using tig rod to pin turnbuckles... I know you can use the same tools and techniques as when working with cotter pins. Perhaps a pair of pliers would assist a set of dikes to complete the task. Tune the rig, hold a piece of rod up across both cotter pin holes and judge the length needed. Cut and then bend (pliers) one 90* bend leaving the short leg something like 8:1 for diameter of tig rod, I suppose. hole the thing up again, judge the position of the next bend and use those pliers stick your c in the two holes and use the dikes, or pliers or whatever, to roll the end up into the body of the turnbuckle. I suppose I could do that, but then Id have to carry a rod box in addition to a cotter pin box, because Id still need those. Less of them.


... but anyway thats about as much as I'll say about something I haven't actually tried. ( IIRC )
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Old 08-02-2009, 05:51 AM
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Thanks for the reply. I got most of that. What I don't understand is what keeps the body of the turnbuckle from backing off? I see how this would prevent the studs from turning, but what secures the body.

I really like the fact that this technique would free me from taping the turnbuckles to protect the sails from snagging on the cotter.

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Old 08-02-2009, 01:51 PM
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Hi there,
You'll see illustrations for the technique on page 243 of the Apprentice. 3/32" TIG, either type 316 stainless or (my preference) silicon bronze, works best for 1/2" & 5/8" turnbuckles.
The barrel doesn't back off because the vertical portion of the rod crosses the central bar.
And yes, it is a lovely alternative to cotter pins for this application, as it needs no tape. Done neatly -- and some practice is required here -- it also looks sleek. For athwartships cotter holes, put the TIG in from outboard, because the vertical part is then what you see from the dock. For fore-and-aft holes, put them in from aft, because you'll see the vertical part from the cockpit. Looks better. But work on making sharp, neat, 90 degree turns.
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Old 08-03-2009, 05:36 PM
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Thanks for the help. You're correct the illustrations in the book made it very clear. Somehow, I missed this section in the book. I set up my shrouds using this technique this afternoon. I like it a lot better than cotter pins.

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