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Old 08-24-2007, 11:55 AM
arigger arigger is offline
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Default False Brummel?

It's nice to finally find the master's site.
I'm hoping to get something straight about brummeling.
I am an entertainment rigger and, until recently, a lead on a crew that has been using 3/8" 12 strand technora [Tech-12] for guy-lines on some very tall towers.
The lines in question were spliced at one end by the company from which we purchased them. I noticed that they were brummeled in a quick and dirty manner that I have since seen called, alternatively: "S" type, stitched, zig-zag, McDonald... I call it 'false' since I've never seen any reliable documentation on the method.
It seems to me that the purpose of brummeling is to gain a high degree of security while retaining most of the efficiency of the termination. A "stitched" brummel will still allow the tail to be dragged out of the splice, and breaking the standing part over and over again can't be helping the efficiency any, can It?
I apologize if this horse is dead... I've searched around and no one seems to have an authoritative answer to this problem.
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Old 08-24-2007, 11:25 PM
NickfromWI NickfromWI is offline
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arigger- welcome to the site. I THINK I understand what differences you are talking about. The "s" brummell is typically considered stronger, though potentially less secure than the locked version. As an arborist, I prefer to use a locked brummell almost exlusively. (is "almost exclusively" an oxymoron?) The S version is supported by Yale Cordage. You can go to their site and see pdf's with directions showing that type of splice. For Tech 12, made by Samson, you can see on their site that they recommend a straight bury (no s curving, no locking). Good manufacturers will share splicing directions with the customers and users. It is a very valuable resource.

Are you near los angeles?

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Old 08-25-2007, 03:21 PM
arigger arigger is offline
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(is "almost exclusively" an oxymoron?)
Yes, maybe.

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The S version is supported by Yale Cordage. You can go to their site and see pdf's with directions showing that type of splice. For Tech 12, made by Samson, you can see on their site that they recommend a straight bury (no s curving, no locking).
That's exactly why I'm beating up every forum I can find...
Yale, you say? I guess that's my next stop.

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Are you near los angeles?

love
nick
God No! Why would you suggest such a terrible thing about me?
I'm an Oregonian.
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