wire swage machines

[Tim Stewart]

Can anybody tell me what is the best type of swage machine on the world market for swaging terminals onto shrouds etc. I have heard of swaging presses, roll swaging machines and recently i've heard of rotary swage machines. Are there any more types. Also who makes them and supplies them.
Tim

[Tim Stewart]

I thought I would get an answer, but after a few days waiting, I've decided to change the question. Can anybody recommend to me a swage machine for swaging terminals onto 1x19 wire rope shrouds. Also who makes the recommended machine.
Cheers.
Tim

[TomP]

Originally Posted by Tim Stewart

I thought I would get an answer, but after a few days waiting, I've decided to change the question. Can anybody recommend to me a swage machine for swaging terminals onto 1x19 wire rope shrouds. Also who makes the recommended machine.
Cheers.
Tim

Well Tim,

A question for you: How much money do you want to spend?

Wire-Teknik, a Swedish company makes a portable manual hydraulic roll swager. You can expect to spend anywhere from 2 to 3 thousand. This machine is only good to 5/16 wire. We use it for on-site lifeline fabrication. Weighs about 40 pounds. It is a pulling machine so it is not capable of swaging stemballs or insulators

A step up from that would be the Top-Reff from Germany. A roll swager, it will handle up to 1/2 inch wire. Not portable at over 300 pounds. Full setup of dies and machine will net you a 20 thousand dollar bill. We use this unit for medium rigs up to 7/32.

For the top shelf in swaging would be the rotary swaging machine. New developments have this machine in a four hammer setup, though two hammers are still out there. Fenn, Torrington, and Lauden (out of business now) are the major ones. These machines are big, but produce what I like to call "jewelry quality" swages. The smallest ones weigh in at about 2 thousand pounds, require 440V 3 phase power, and need to be cared for in an almost hospital like manner. If the hammers go out of spec your swages will to. The smaller one will cost about 10 grand, the bigger ones can go as high as 60 grand.

The premier is what is called a Hydro-Former. Like a rotary swager expcept it uses hydraulic wedges to power the hammers. Like the rotarys this is a huge machine. Weighs in at about 3 thousand pounds and costs about 15 dollars a pound and like the rotary swager need 440V 3 phase power and special mounting platforms (no less than 8 inches 3000 psi enforced concrete pad). This is the machine we use for heavy rigs up to 5/8.

If you want to work rod rigging expect to spend about 20 thousand on a heading press and then sell your soul to Navtec for the dies to form the heads.

Hope this helps, I can put you in touch with reps for these units if you want.

Tom

[Tim Stewart]

Thanks very much Tom for replying. I have heard of the Wire Teknik machines, and have got some literature on then. but I knew nothing about the others you mentioned. Thanks again.
Tim.

The Top Reff swager will set you back about $12,600 all told, not incliding shipping. Hayn Enterprises sells them and has them in stock. This is a great machine, as it has a removable top cap with bearings for the upper end of the die posts. This prevents the dies from spreading and giving you "banana" swages. Just wanted to correct the pricing information Tom quoted earlier.

[Brion Toss]

Hi Andy,
Sounds like a good price. Would you wrap up a dozen of those machines for me?
Brion

A dozen? Would you settle for the 3 that I have in stock for now? And then we can talk about your cornering the Pacific Northwest market for a bit............lol.



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[TWR150]

Does anyone know of a good place to find maintenance and operating manuals for older swagers? We have access to a very old 2 die Torrington rotary swager without any specs or manuals.
Mostly concerned about the maintenance schedule, but any other info is greatly appreciated.
Thanks

I would like to purchase a used swaging machine; no preference as to pneumatic, manual, hydraulic; dies to swage single- and double balls and MS-type terminals to 3/16". Am not looking to spend more than $1,000.00 - $1,200.00USD. If you have one for sale, or have a lead to one, please contact Art at QuarterTonner@Verizon.net with all thew particulars. Thanks in advance for all your time and effort in answering this post.