Soft Halyard or Line Shackle

[Brion Toss]

Hi All,
Just received a report from New England Ropes, re testing on the improved soft shackle. I will need to go over things in detail, but the design got significantly higher break strengths that the conventional one -- about 200% of rope strength, at least in the smaller sizes, and up to 280% when cycled a few times prior to the break. This compares with around 120% for the conventional design, in previous tests.
When I get things sorted out and averaged I'll be providing more details. Meanwhile I'll mention that these numbers, at least for the non-cycled samples, are lower than the results carried out by the estimable Evans Starzinger on a few preliminary samples. but then he also got higher results for the conventional design. It seems likely that there is a protocol difference that will account for the discrepancy, but in any event both sets of tests show a major increase in strength, and I have a couple of ideas for improving things further.
Many thanks to Stuart MacNeil and all the gang at New England Ropes for breaking these things! Do let them know how wonderful they are: Stuart.MacNeil@teufelberger.com.
Fair leads,
Brion Toss

[Anton B]

I just bought a 600Lb hanging scale that I will try to do pull tests with. I got the 600Lb scale because it was $30, I will use a lever to multiply it so I can measure a few thousand pounds. Probably won't be very accurate, but close enough, and might be good enough for comparison. I reckon I can easily do 4K with a come along I already have.

I will post any findings I have.

Anton

[Anton B]

Brion,

Please describe the pre-cycling that was done before the test the yielded the higher strength, if you would.

Thanks,

Anton

[Brion Toss]

Hi all,
Here are a few details from the tests.
First, as noted previously, the best numbers came with shackles that had been cycled at 50% of the average tensile result of shackles that had not been cycled. So if we broke 5 shackles, and they had an average break of 10,000lbs., then they cycled a sample up to 5,000lbs, ten times, before taking it up to break. This added about 20% to the shackle strength for most of the samples we broke.
Next, the smaller shackles did the best, with one notable exception. The average of uncycled breaks for 5/32" was 260% of rated strength, which dropped down to 195% for 3/16" and 141% for 1/4". But the 11mm HSR, New England's heat-treated rope, broke at 166% of rated strength (over 52,000lbs.)
Even the lower numbers were well in excess of numbers we have gotten with conventional soft shackles,. Most heartening.
Most of the tests were done with a lanyard through end of the shackle, and a pin at the other, though some were attached to a lanyard at both ends. The HSR started cutting through the lanyards at high loads, so the testers had to insert thimbles for those. With that exception, then, these numbers were for very tight bends, on the order of 1:1. This means, among other things, that we are safe using them to join rope to chain for anchor lines.
Most of the samples broke at the end of the tail bury, so the taper is one of the things I'll be adjusting in the next batch.
I'll be working with the wonderful tech people at New England Ropes to analyze this data further, and to prepare for future destruction.
Fair leads,
Brion

[allene]

Originally Posted by Brion Toss

Hi all,
Here are a few details from the tests.
First, as noted previously, the best numbers came with shackles that had been cycled at 50% of the average tensile result of shackles that had not been cycled. So if we broke 5 shackles, and they had an average break of 10,000lbs., then they cycled a sample up to 5,000lbs, ten times, before taking it up to break. This added about 20% to the shackle strength for most of the samples we broke.
Next, the smaller shackles did the best, with one notable exception. The average of uncycled breaks for 5/32" was 260% of rated strength, which dropped down to 195% for 3/16" and 141% for 1/4". But the 11mm HSR, New England's heat-treated rope, broke at 166% of rated strength (over 52,000lbs.)
Even the lower numbers were well in excess of numbers we have gotten with conventional soft shackles,. Most heartening.
Most of the tests were done with a lanyard through end of the shackle, and a pin at the other, though some were attached to a lanyard at both ends. The HSR started cutting through the lanyards at high loads, so the testers had to insert thimbles for those. With that exception, then, these numbers were for very tight bends, on the order of 1:1. This means, among other things, that we are safe using them to join rope to chain for anchor lines.
Most of the samples broke at the end of the tail bury, so the taper is one of the things I'll be adjusting in the next batch.
I'll be working with the wonderful tech people at New England Ropes to analyze this data further, and to prepare for future destruction.
Fair leads,
Brion

Hi Brion,

What did you use for a taper?

Very impressive results. It does start to bring up the concern that these loads get high enough you have to start to worry about the soft shackle cutting through any rope it might be securing. I have wondered if you are securing an eye splice in StaSet, what ratio of shackle and strength starts to move the failure mechanism to failure in the StaSet? Obviously not a concern when securing chain.

Allen

[Brion Toss]

Hi,
I used a fairly blunt taper, just cutting a 45 on the ends. That's one of the things I want to change for the next batch. As for the cutting problem, it happened, as I understand it, with a Spectra/Spectra connection, with a shackle of HSR, and a lanyard of the softer SK78. With a Dacron lanyard, it might be a self-solving problem, mostly because the Dacron should be at least 3 times the diameter of the HSR.
Fair leads,
Brion
PS,
You can see a video of a shackle break here:
https://www.facebook.com/brion.toss

[allene]

Originally Posted by Brion Toss

Hi,
I used a fairly blunt taper, just cutting a 45 on the ends. That's one of the things I want to change for the next batch. As for the cutting problem, it happened, as I understand it, with a Spectra/Spectra connection, with a shackle of HSR, and a lanyard of the softer SK78. With a Dacron lanyard, it might be a self-solving problem, mostly because the Dacron should be at least 3 times the diameter of the HSR.
Fair leads,
Brion
PS,
You can see a video of a shackle break here:
https://www.facebook.com/brion.toss

Two things:

1) The Samson taper is strong and easy. 1 fid length back cut e/o pair for total of half the strands. Then taper the very end with a shallow cut or by removing half the remaining strands working away from the end
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2) The cutting of line I was worried about is as follows. Say you have some 7/16 StaSet at 6600 pounds and want a soft shackle of similar strength. For thin line you have 260% line strength so 1/8 Amsteel is a perfect match. The question is did you just introduce a new failure mode where the 1/8 inch soft shackle cuts through the 7/16 line causing a failure in the splice of the StaSet.