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Old 10-03-2007, 02:39 PM
pyrofly73 pyrofly73 is offline
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Default hi Everyone. New to spartalk looking for big advice.

I don't even know were to start but here goes. About a year ago I purchased a 34' Creekmore it is a pretty unique looking boat to say the least. I have started a web page to keep track of all work I've done on the boat and i have hundreds of pictures in there.

http://www.myspace.com/creekbuild

If you take the time to look at the pictures you will see that i have gotten to a point were i need to figure out the deck layout and numerous other things. the Mast is an Isomat that was rigged for the first time a year ago. It had been sitting in storage for about 15 years. and basically looks brand new. all wire is 19-9 316 s.s. with sta-loks on the lower ends and swaged fittings above. I have a baby(cutter) stay but no back stays to oppose it. Is it needed or is the mast stiff enough?

I also have 4 big lewmar winches 2 self tailing and two non self tailing. I need Ideas as to where i should mount them, the main sheet track, the jenoa tracks. I need to know where to put everything that is attached to the deck. Sadly Lee Creekmore the guy who designed this boat is of no help. I have called and written numerous times asking for info(willing to pay) and Nada.

Honestly i would love to find a really knowledgeable rigger to spend an hour or two with me and tell me this is what needs to be done. Brion you coming to Miami any day? My intentions for the boat are extended cruising with a very limited crew. I would like to be able to single hand this boat 99% of the time. I never intend to fly any spinnaker that requires use of a pole.

where do I start?

Also budget is a big issue. How does everyone feel about Garhauer products?

I am willing to research anything that is requested and like I said there are 100's of pics that you can look at on the myspace page.

Thank you everyone.

Xavier
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Old 10-03-2007, 03:29 PM
Russ L Russ L is offline
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Default little advice in a big world

Hi Xavier,
There is a good oppurtunity for you to view a completed boat in Maimi. Check out this Creekmore on Yachtworld:
http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi...g_id=57289&url=
If the inner stay is high enough (Solent stay) then you don't need to back it up with a stay. If it's attached lower and the boat is meant to fly double headsails, cutter style then opposing support is likely needed. The key is don't do anything without more knowledge and we can't be much help without detailed info. But we do like to help. Get Brion's book, The Complete Rigger's Apprentice, read it cover to cover, do the math on your rig and it will save you many times the cost of the book each time you talk to a pro.
Garhauer equipment is well regarded on the C&C list. I have purchased deck organizers and they appear well made. Sometimes the finish detail is not really high end (but then neither is the price!).
Regards, Russ
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Old 10-03-2007, 05:38 PM
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Default thanks for the advice russ

I have the book on order. Actually I have seen the boat you sent me links to the only problem is that basically no 2 creekmores are the same. If you look at the pics for my boat i have a completely smooth deck (no cabin house). my boat looks like a giant j24. It seems that the design of my boat was being approached to be fast. As for the cutter/solent stay (undetermined as of yet) it is even with the upper spreaders which are 15' down from the mast head(total mast height is 46 feet (*on paper anyways) i need to send a tape up and verify all these measurements. The sail and mast plans are also in the myspace page.

I cant wait to get the book!!!!

thanks again.

Xavier
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