More asymetric questions

[toolowd]

Ok more questions. Thanks for the help from everyone.

Because of a strange mainsail arrangement, I would like to explore a dual headsail downwind rig. We have a genoa on a furler and a track on the front of the mast that will hold two poles (the pin/socket kind of thing with two pins).

I am rigging for an asymmetric spinnaker. I only have one pole on the boat now. I used it successfully when we had only a hanked on jib. Now I can't do that with the furler because the clew is too high. We have no pole topping lift. I would, before adding the furler, lower the jib halyard until I could clip the pole to the clew and rehoist.

I think I need to add two pole lifts to use two poles? What kind of fitting does this require on the mast? Will a block on a padeye work? Do I need something more substantial? Will a simple cleat on the mast be ok for the pole lift? We have no winches on the mast, as everything is led aft (the way we got the boat).

Thanks for the help. I am trying to get all the gear together so I can do the work on the spars in the next couple of weeks, so any suggestions would be helpful as always.

fairwinds and following seas,

rich morpurgo
toolowd@aol.com
SV Jasmine
westsail 32

[Brian Duff]

Yeah, I would say if you want to use two pole lifts , to wing out two sails downwind, you would need two pole lifts. A pad eye with two 1/4" fastners should be enough for a dedicated lift on that westsail, and you can use a horn cleat on the spar if you want, cam cleats or a jammer would be easier to use, but a cleat works too, and are pretty much failsafe. I normally install a through deck block in the front of a the spar, pretty far up, and then cut an exit down near where you want to cleat the lift, so that the line runs inside the spar. less windage and noise, sometimes less chafe problems on the spar.. Cleaner looking too.
What is 'strange' about the mainsail arrangement.you should consider hanging a snatch block on the end of your boom for the jib sheet, then you can run the boom out with a preventer, the sheet and your mainboom toppin lift to stabilize it, and use the main boom as one pole and your pole as the other. save money, and weight, and complication, and clutter.
Did you get a decent arrangement for the halyard sorted out ? as no one directly answered you , no you cannot use a spare jib hal as your spin, you need a halyard block mounted outside and above the headstay.
Good luck.
Brian

[toolowd]

Our mailsail has no boom. It has a old style roller furler on a wire luff and sheets to the boomkin. We are happy with the arrangement, but need more sail area downwind, as the sail shape of the main is poor downwind. (much like a non poled genoa).

We did find a masthead crane from our westsail guru in Cal. We will run a separate halyard to the block.

We may eventually go back to a boom for alot of reasons, but at this time, the sail is in such good shape, we are trying other downwind options.

Thanks for this and any other suggestions.

rich