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Old 04-27-2011, 12:05 AM
echidna echidna is offline
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Hi Brion,

Well, I would say that my 0-30 Centigrade temperature range is quite reasonable, even conservative, for a boat left in the water year round (or hauled for winter rig-in) in New Jersey (where I used to sail), having on the one hand wilted in summer heat in the high 90's (Fahrenheit), and used my former boat as an ice breaker in the destination harbor (and near frozen to death) on a December trip to Mamaroneck, NY.

Regarding loads and creep, I just went to the Colligo site to refresh my memory on their creep data, and could not find the relevant information. It seems to have been removed - Google cache still has it though.

Assuming the old data was correct, a load 12% of breaking strength would cause creep of over 3" per year in 50ft at 22 deg C. I'm not sure that is acceptable.

The question now is, was that old Colligo data valid, and what happened to it? Insofar as creep is probably the dominant consideration in sizing Dyneema for stays, it's important to have good information on it.

I'd also like to raise another point related to temperature effects, and that is the temperature dependence of creep. Creep is typically strongly dependent on temperature, and the equation on the old Colligo graph would imply that the creep rate for a given load in Dyneema doubles with every 4 deg C temperature increase. So in discussing creep, it is surely essential to indicate the expected ambient temperature. Temperatures in the tropics could easily be 5-10 deg C higher than the 22 deg C reference point used in the old Colligo data. Probably a topic for another thread, really.
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