Y-Splice

[Stumble]

Just curious if anyone can point me towards directions on how to make a Y splice for A kite trims in tapered endurabraid? I have been having a hard time finding a guide.

[Brion Toss]

Hi,
More details, please.
Fair leads,
Brion Toss

[akochen]

I'll translate since I also would like to see how to do that splice. The sheets for an Asymmetrical spinnaker are spliced together to form a Y with just the exposed core and the tail of the Y is tied to the clew of the spinnaker. The splice is easier to get around the headstay than the knots of having two sheets tied to the clew.

Anne

[Stumble]

A picture can be found at http://www.apsltd.com/c-1539-splicin...heetsguys.aspx labeled Asymetrical spin sheet bridle. Third from the bottom.

[knuterikt]

Originally Posted by Stumble

A picture can be found at http://www.apsltd.com/c-1539-splicin...heetsguys.aspx labeled Asymetrical spin sheet bridle. Third from the bottom.

I have used "Asymmetrical Spin Sheets - Three Part" (two from the bottom) works for me

"Asymmetrical Spin Sheets - Bridle" or Y splice - isn't that two ropes where the cover has been removed then joined with a standard dyneema splice as in an eye splice?
(one rope with a longer uncovered part than the other, the long uncovered beeing the leg in the Y)

[Stumble]

Knut,

I thought about doing that, but I don't think it would work. When the bury leg is loaded there would be nothing keeping the splice together since dyneema splices rely on the finger trap effect to hold. Of course when the cover portion is loaded it wouldn't be a problem, but that doesn't really solve it.

I was thinking about a bury where they join, then switching the bury and the cover, for another leingth of bury. Conceptually this works in my head, but before I go start destruction testing line just to be sure, I would rather have input about ow others are making them. It seems silly to reinvent the wheel. This just can't be that poorly known of a splice that I can't get any information on how they are made.

[knuterikt]

Originally Posted by Stumble

Knut,

I thought about doing that, but I don't think it would work. When the bury leg is loaded there would be nothing keeping the splice together since dyneema splices rely on the finger trap effect to hold. Of course when the cover portion is loaded it wouldn't be a problem, but that doesn't really solve it.

I was thinking about a bury where they join, then switching the bury and the cover, for another leingth of bury. Conceptually this works in my head, but before I go start destruction testing line just to be sure, I would rather have input about ow others are making them. It seems silly to reinvent the wheel. This just can't be that poorly known of a splice that I can't get any information on how they are made.

When I wrote "standard dyneema splice as in an eye splice" I meant a locked brummel splice made the same way as a naked eye on dyneema (no cover).

Just to be clear to me the Y has got one leg and two arms, leg is attached to the sail and the arms is starboard and port sheet. One "sheet" is continuous from clew to tail, the other "sheet" is joined to the continuous line with naked eye splice with a Brummel.

When using one sheet you will use the continuous part of the rope - the brummel would keep the unloaded part in place (maybe some lock stitches to make i safer).

When using the other sheet it will be locked by the brummel and the "finger trap" on the buried tail.

What would be the week link in this?

I'm not planning to do this now - but have made a "moc up" to ilustrate my thougts



Close up of the brummel

[Terrier]

If the desired outcome is to have tapered sheets and minimal mess at the clue why not middle the endura with a brummel and add covers to each end? (cover tapered towards brummel).

Tom

[Stumble]

Knut,

That was pretty much my plan. But before making some up like that I am curious how the people that are selling these are doing it.

[davidsamuelson]

Stumble,

How will you attach your sheet to the clew?