Bury for Amsteel Blue

[seawolf]

Hello all,
When reading splicing instructions for single braid 12 strand uncovered line, I believe that 24d was the suggested bury for an eye splice.
In another response by Brion in a thread in the archives, I noticed mentioned a 72d bury.
My questions:
Was the 24d bury talking about something other than hi mod?
Is 24d a long enough bury for 1/4" Amsteel used for life line purposes? (The ends will have round thimbles and lashed).
When ordering my line I accounted for 24d bury, not 72d.
I hope I am not short on my order now.
As usual. Thanks for the assistance.
Fair winds.
Bob

[Bob Pingel]

24d is a std bury for dacron, you need to develop more friction in slippery and hi-load high mods like Amsteel.

A locked brummel and 72d bury are my standard in Amsteel.

Bob

[seawolf]

Bob,
Thanks for your reply. I thought that may be the case. (72d 18 inches in my case with the 1/4 inch amsteel) If I have to order more line I will.
I can always use it.
The locking Brummel you suggest. Is that the same as the Mobius Brummel that I see in the Apprentice by Brion? It seems the only one he mentions for exotics in the book.

I am thinking of using round thimbles on each end to lash to shackles on the foredeck fitting and the stern pulpit. The ends at the gate and gate hook will be ring hitched.

Is there a recommended size of solid round thimble for this application. I would imagine that you would want to have enough space for proper amount of lashings.(using 1/8 inch spectra or equivalent).
Thanks again for your assistance, and fair winds.
Bob

[Bob Pingel]

Yes, the brummel I mentioned is the one that the Mobius construction yields. You can get there a few different ways. You can do it "naturally" if you have access to both end of the rope. You can use the Mobius method that Brion shows in TRA. Or, best of all, you can use the McDonald method shown in the Splicing Field Guide.

I have only seen round thimbles in bronze, Brion's shop would be a good source regardless...

Bob