Hi...thanks for reply and suggestion. I don't coil the halyards but have been makiny them up by making figure eight loops in my palm. Then when I drop the sail I just drop the bundle on deck. When lowered, there is enough to make off onto the cleat and not much more. So I'm wondering if there are 'seconds' available for resale, are they rejects because they just have the twist built in???
Thanks again.
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