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Originally Posted by k7cej
... I am unlikely to be able to consult Ashley in the middle of a rescue (even though the bible always resides on board).
I have elected to replace the large loop formed by the knot in question with a loop of Spectra/Dyneema ...
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Oh, really: are you able to do THIS in the middle of a rescue?!
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I have been in contact with Chuck Hawley and others at WM as well as The Sailing Foundation, and they agreed that the construction needs improvement. I am convinced they are serious and will continue to work them them. I will let the Spartalk forum know what their final decision is.
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Seems it would be best to let them know BEFORE they make a decision,
since you might get better knot advice than is currently available,
as ...
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FWIW, I have decided that the original knot is a bowline tied as though rotated so one leg of the loop were the standing part. Wierd, huh?
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Yes, wierd that after the knot has been explained above to be the bowline
that you "decided" something contrary. Please re-read what I posted; you should
be able to reconstruct the BOWLINE with tail seized of the original (and, in fact,
you should be able to confirm this via the makers and other Lifeslings, which
have the knot). You are wrong about the knot that you presented here, given
your remarks about which ends go where (S.Part eye leg, Tail eye leg, & S.Part).
Again: the knot was a bowline, with the tail turned back and seized to the S.Part;
the knot was deformed upon
ring-loading which apparently is an expected
loading for the structure.
There are KNOTS to remedy this; I suggested one above.
Another comes to mind immediately: the Offset Ring Bend eye knot.
You can see it here:
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dfxv4svj_0f8xtcfdt&hl=en
Thus, when ring-loaded, you have a pure Ring Bend. QED.
And both this eye knot and the #1029 one orient the tail so that it can
be easily seized to an eye leg, if that's desired; unlike in the present
case where it's seized via an awkward turn to the S.Part, there should
be less load on the seizing in these cases (and the knots are more
stable).
But there might be better knots of a similar tact; e.g., one can make
a suitable bowlinesque knot to do the trick, if untying the knot is a
desired characteristic for the knot (it might not be).
--dl*
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