Anyone who cruises extensivly will need a way all the way up sometime, likely in poor conditions with lots of breakage around. I'm a former rock climber myself and worked as a steeple jack, arborist and rigger so I have a lot of confidence about what I can climb. But when I was doing an artificial climb, I never relied on a cliff hanger if I could put in a nut. 'Nuff said to any climber.
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