Source for 7x7 galvanized?
 

Hey there,

I'd like to make up a whole new gang of rigging for a boat I just bought, Does anyone know of a source for 7x7 galvanized? 42' lod schooner, 8 tons disp. She currently doesn't have topsails but will be adding the spars and rigging.

Thanks

Dave

Looking for the same thing
 

Hi,
Sorry I don't have an answer for you but if a do find a source I'll let you know. I'm building a fifty foot schooner and am at the rigging stage. I'm looking for seven strand for shrouds and the only place I've found it is in use for fencing at a State Park near here.

I was really hoping that Brion would know seeing how he professes to love the stuff. I'll bang around a little more before I bother the Man himself.

Russ

Contact BTYR
 

Have you contacted Brion's shop?

360-385-1080 or info@briontoss.com


Bob

Thanks, I sent them a message
 

Thanks Bob,

I took your advice and sent them off a query.

Russ

Source for 7 x 7 wire rope
 

Try calling M&G Industries. They are in Bristol, RI at 1.800.323.0492 and Elk Grove Village, IL at 1.800.323.1592.
The web site is www.m-gind.com
They have 7 x 7 in galvanized, stainless 304 and stainless 316 in coated and non coated.
They will not sell to people calling in but they will tell you where the nearest dealer is for you.
Good Luck
Buddy

Source for 7 x 7
 

I would still talk with the folks at Brions shop because you can buy equipment anywhere but it's hard to find someone who knows what your really doing with it.
Buddy

m-gind
 

Hey there,

m-gind doesn't have any anymore 3/8 7x7 galvanized. He said they used to carry some but have no more. I've called up about a dozen places nationwide with no luck. I'll call Brion's crew. I plan on doing a scrounging tour of the Boston area soon, if I do find some I'll let everyone know.

Thanks

3/8 7x7 source
 

Hey there,

I called Brion's shop today and they're looking into possibly getting some. Whalerman, I need about 500 feet, and I assume you need about that amount also. Maybe we can go in together (or even get some more folks) and get a larger order all together.

David

Actually need 1 x 7
 

dpincus,
were you thinking to use the 7 x7 for lifelines and halyards? I was thinking that 1 x 7 would be better for standing rigging. After beating my head against the wall for days now looking for the stuff and seeing plenty of 7 x 7 go by I'm considering switching. I've noticed a few industrial type wholesalers out there but no one that seems ameniable to small orders. So, do you think 7 x 7 is good for shrouds, and is it friendly to splice?
I'm building a tancook whaler and trying to get into as many of the traditional methods as I deem practical.

7x7
 

I want to use 7x7 for my shrouds. she's a bit smaller than yours, 42 lod, but she's also a Nova Scotia schooner, built in 1950. From all that I've read 7x7 is best for shrouds of my type. Running rigging should be more flexible, 19 stranded. 7x1 is a bear to splice and too stiff.


I'm going to go for high modulus line for lifelines because I like my hair, might go coated stainless.

Cost is paramount for me as my boat is workboat rough, not much brightwork , but pretty to me :)


Dave

Tancook = Nova Scotia
 

I should know more about traditional craft -- does a tancook whaler imply some Nova Scotia lineage -- as in Tancook Island?

Bob

Tancookers
 

Yup! Tancook island scooners have a fairly unique shape. Mine is more Downeast style but was made in extreme northern Nova Scotia. I'm trying to figure out exactly who made and where my boat was built. I'm going back and forth with the guys from the NS Schooner Assn.

BTW there is 1000' of Loos 7x7 on ebay right now, I wonder if we should go in together. Maybe he'd send me a sample.

Dave

Local (SW USA) search turns up empty
 

I'm sold on the 7x7 now. I need to loop the masts and splice around thimbles and don't want to try that with 1/8" diameter stands. A local supplier has Asian stuff for $.40 a ft FOB in LA. I've been warned about knowing where the stuff comes from and I can't say I do when it comes to Asian suppliers. The local supplier says that the good stuff is only on the East coast and is at a premium price. Is that what you've discovered? Any news from Brion's shop?

Russ

Oh, and Tancook Whalers hail from Tancook Island, Nova Scotia, or at least they did. They were handsome, rakish double-enders in general use there at the turn of the last century till the transomed variation, the Tancook Schooner, displaced them. Their rigs were distinguished by the use of a loose-footed foresail with a club at the clew and by the fisherman staysail.

They re-emerged for the public imagination when the Maine Maritime Museum's apprentice program researched and built the 'Vernon Langille', which served at 'The Apprentice Shop' out of Rockland Maine as one of their seamanship training vessels. Roger Taylor has owned and written of the type very favorably.

It's my experience that the type is getting more popular, most likely because of their overt salty-sexiness. The challenge involved with converting such a utilitarian 'pickup truck' into something practical for modern times is daunting, however.

Count me in
 

Dave,

I've been to ebay to see the spool. It looks like the real deal. I could use about a third of it, maybe more.

Ok, so here I am in CA, there you are in MA, and there it is in SC.

What now?

Asian != Poor Quality
 

There is nothing wrong with Asian wire per se, I have used some fine Korean 1x19 SS. I'd check with Brion's shop for some pointers and references...

Bob

Galvanized 3/8 7x7 available from GME supply
 

I just purchased the material I need from this source online. The whole thing was painless and affordable. Their web site is gmesupply.com

Maybe not
 

Hello,
I have a call in to GME, asking for info and a sample. If they have good stuff, I'll let you know. Our experience inclines me to be skeptical, but you never know. Amount of lube, quality of galvanizing, and wire metallurgy can all vary so much. But here's hoping.
Fair leads,
Brion Toss